A community mod for the Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, which aims to fix many of the issues present in the stock version.
Engine and Flight Model
Higher thrust and greater braking force, allowing for short field ops.
Improved flight characteristics, more realistic climb, increased drag on approach and less float on landing.
More accurate cruise performance.
Ground Handling
More control while taxiing.
Tighter turning circle.
More realistic idle behaviour, lower fuel burn.
Systems & Avionics
Added CAS annunciations, Systems Page, improved engine readouts.
Autopilot and instrument fixes.
More accurate start up.
Miscellaneous
Improved lighting and textures.
Based on the work of C208-MSFS2020-Fix and msfs2020-C208-Improvment-Mod
Thanks to everyone who has contributed, and to PilotTrev for sharing his knowledge and first hand experience.
Issues and Limitations
- Beta mode and prop feathering are nonfunctional
- The propeller generates zero drag/has no affect on torque
- Torque increases with altitude
- ITT effectively decreases with altitude
Propeller - Beta mode is completely nonfunctional, blade pitch jumps from the minimum stop to reverse with no control between. Feathering is possible, but the behaviour is so bugged that it's practically useless. The prop itself lacks any physics, produces no drag and has no affect on torque.
Climb Performance - With ITT being broken, it's not possible to use it as a metric when tuning climb performance, neither is the Maximum Torque for Climb chart of much use. Instead, I referenced the Maximum RoC and RoC - Takeoff Flap Setting tables, crosschecked with Time, Fuel, and Distance, to find a somewhat acceptable balance where climb performance is not overly excessive at minimum weight, but still allows for max RoC at max weight. I haven't accounted for the reduction in airspeed when flying through clouds.
Cruise Performance - Due to the torque/prop issues, cruise performance and fuel flow can only be tuned correctly for a specific set of conditions, outside of which, engine behaviour and performance varies. For this purpose I used ISA conditions, 8807 pounds and 1750 RPM.
Flight Model (WIP) - The flight model is the result of adapting the POH to the above issues and the limited control the config files provide. Not only are turboprops poorly simulated but the inaccuracies are all over the place, meaning the phases of flight are often at odds with each other. With this in mind, I've attempted to average out behaviour at all stages of operation, rather than perfecting any one aspect at the expense of another.
As mentioned above, the flight model has been tuned using ISA conditions, a climb/cruise/landing weight of 7300-8807/8807/8500 pounds, a cruise RPM of 1750 and the inertial separator normal; live weather behaviour will vary but should still show an improvement over the previous model.
A few notes from my testing so far:
- Taxi - To compensate for the lack of beta, thrust in the beta range has been further reduced to make taxiing more manageable.
- Takeoff - For the most part, normal and short field takeoff procedures can be followed as you'd expect - maximum takeoff torque, takeoff distance and RoC with flaps TO/APR closely match the POH. Flaps UP takeoff ground roll is shorter than it should be.
- Climb - The thrust to drag ratio favours the accuracy of cruise over climb performance. As a consequence, at lower weight, climb performance is higher than it should be, and requires a reduced power setting. At maximum weight, required power/torque will be higher than expected. Time, fuel and distance are correct as long as VS/KIAS are kept in check.
- Cruise - Cruise performance is fairly accurate to 12,000 ft (1750 RPM), above which, torque and fuel flow remain accurate to 18,000 ft, while airspeed falls below expected numbers; to compensate, prop RPM can be increased without affecting torque. Above 18,000 ft, power must be increased and consequently fuel flow will be higher than expected.
- Descent, approach and landing - Drag has been increased and the relationship between Ng and the power lever adjusted in an attempt to simulate propeller drag as you bring it back towards idle.
Compatibility Sim version - v1.13.16.0
WT G1000 version - v0.3.4, v0.4 beta
Required Working Title's G1000 v0.3.4 How to Install 1. Delete any previous versions.
2. Copy the C208B-mod folder into the Community Folder.
WT G1000 v0.3.4 - To enable annunciations you will need to replace the following file with the one included with this mod (wt-g1000-0.3.4-fix):workingtitle-g1000\html_ui\WorkingTitle\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\NavSystems\SharedCommonPFD_MFD.js
marcwoolery
Nautiker777
This mod seems to be not compatible with the Balc Square Analog Mod, it cause a enoying warning tone, hast to be withe the fuel flow function.
Quassel89
Premium
The idea is good, but after installing the mod, some switches don't work anymore.
sardave
the heading knob on the autopilot stopped working, other wise I like it.. I'll have to remove it until there is an update
ChalkYeager
Please update.
Paulh9601
There is a problem with this mod and instruments in the cocpit. I m not able to switch the feul valves on or of when using this mod.
CXDriver227
Update 7 has broken this mod as far as cockpit display. Panel is invisible. External view has minor issues also.
StanceGermany
how can i notice if the mod works ?
Gouaill
Would be great to have a updeted version post SU5 of this mod!!
Magraina
There is a updated version
https://flightsim.to/file/16350/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-ex-improvement-mod
3 years ago
Magraina
There is a Updated Version of this Mod!
I’ve waited for @dgtlanlg to update our mod, but he hasn’t been online for a long time so there is no possibility to share this update on it's original place. The new Version is available here:
https://de.flightsim.to/file/16350/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-ex-improvement-mod
sueede
I have tried to find the right place for the working title fix to follow the instruction WT G1000 v0.3.4 - To enable annunciations you will need to replace the following file with the one included with this mod (wt-g1000-0.3.4-fix):workingtitle-g1000\html_ui\WorkingTitle\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\NavSystems\SharedCommonPFD_MFD.js
but that file is not to be found. The fix file provided is named differently (CommonPFD_MFD.js) than what you suggest should be replaced and at the location named in the instruction there is no file at all, only the library AS1000. I end up with a black middle screen MFD (flightplan/map window).
Magraina
There is a updated version
https://flightsim.to/file/16350/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-ex-improvement-mod
3 years ago
rightrudder
Not sure if anyone else is having this issue, but the MFD is not working with Working Title g1000 > 0.3.4: This can easily be fixed by following their 0.3.5 comment:
"Due to changes in how planes load their configurations in WU4, we had to change the code that loads custom display gauges from WTEngineDisplay.xml, as is done with our sample for the G36. In order to get these to work now, aircraft creators or modders must put the contents of the WTEngineDisplay section directly into panel.xml, within the body of the main PlaneHTMLConfig section. This is unfortunate, but it was the only way we could preserve this functionality. Doing this to your panel.xml is fully backwards compatible and will not break planes that don't use the modded G1000."
After doing this, I have it working with the g1000 0.3.5 +
This should maybe be updated on the mod?
Magraina
There is a update on a new location
https://de.flightsim.to/file/16350/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-ex-improvement-mod
3 years ago
sho69607
Can this be used with the latest version of MSFS?
CaptainDaddy
Yes!
3 years ago
paulhannover
The plane appears much more powerful than without the mod, actually, i need to be careful to reduce the throttle, otherwise i accelerate so quickly that i overstress the aircraft very soon. is this realistic?
scootersm